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fvelilla
07-21-2006, 12:32 PM
what the heck? 1 guys running an entire group? lame
formations autofollow should be removed....let see who will multibox them

Bloodthirst
07-21-2006, 12:34 PM
People have been multi-boxing since release. I think it's 'Keycloning' you are reffering to.

BenSBG
07-21-2006, 01:19 PM
People have been multi-boxing since release. I think it's 'Keycloning' you are reffering to.



He is, but I'm wondering if that would work as part of a multifaceted approach to discouraging keyclone or would it simply create too much pain for legitimate users.

fvelilla
07-21-2006, 01:59 PM
ill love to see the autofollow funtion removed on the test server.
i dont think it will be a pain cause it force more strategy into teh battle
it also discorage multiboxer/keycloners...

XaeroT
07-21-2006, 02:02 PM
People used to "keyclone" when the game was pay to play(on a smaller scale).

Myself, I have a notebook that I run a buffbot on(and vent/gaim/etc/etc), and find myself running both at the same time (very difficult when moving out of form in pvp).

I would rather not have a buffbot tho (buffing everyone is a job), imo self only buffs should be BETTER than priest/bard buffs, and shrines should be reworked to do hour long buffs that are equal to priest buffs (and cost the same, 1 boon for the buffs).

Malykai
07-21-2006, 02:20 PM
ill love to see the autofollow funtion removed on the test server.
i dont think it will be a pain cause it force more strategy into teh battle
it also discorage multiboxer/keycloners...

You are kidding right? You realize movement in this game without mounts or advanced movement is not optimal anyway, right? Trying to keep on top and coordinate large scale battles and combat without an autofollow feature would be extremely difficult if not unbearable.

I have no idea who you guys are that are advocating the OFF autofollow feature are, but you have obviously not played many MMOs that relied heavily on buffs, like we do here and had NO advanced movement features like shadowbane has the lack of. Scouts, Rangers, priests and huntresses would love it. Aside from that everyone else would probably shoot you in the face.

I am tired of people crying about needless crap. I don't nor will I ever use a keyclone exploit but you also don't see me crying about the people that do. I play well with the toons I have and to my knowledge have not been beat down by a guy running an entire group and a keycloning application.

Removing the autofollow would be lame unless advanced movement for all classes is instated.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees."

BenSBG
07-21-2006, 05:18 PM
Hey, junior, lighten up.

There is a problem that not only SB faces but other mmo's as well. Don't get all bent when someone discusses possible remedies.


And you two really should get two accts. I never know which of you is posting, although I think I can tell in this one.

CentsLess
07-21-2006, 05:36 PM
Hey, junior, lighten up.

There is a problem that not only SB faces but other mmo's as well. Don't get all bent when someone discusses possible remedies.


And you two really should get two accts. I never know which of you is posting, although I think I can tell in this one.

It wasnt me...I promise it wasnt me.

Jeln_FC
07-21-2006, 08:52 PM
Individual access to basically unlimited free accounts is hurting the game. There are many various solutions but first of all UBI needs to understand how harmful this can become.

The "keycloning" will become an epedemic if not dealt with soon. It turns off new and old player alike that choose not to exploit the unlimitied account phenomenon.

Like duping it forces players to choose between "when in Rome......" , or leave SB scenarios because one can no longer compete. The playing field is tilted.

Please do something.

Benji_
07-22-2006, 06:48 AM
He is, but I'm wondering if that would work as part of a multifaceted approach to discouraging keyclone or would it simply create too much pain for legitimate users.


Removing group formations shouldn't affect keycloning at all since it sends all commands to all the screens, it *should* send the mouse clicks as well.(I don't use the program, but if it doesnt it would be easy enough to code it in)

All it really does is decimate any chances of being able to afk on the way anywhere or take a buffbot without summoning them at the scene without being a humongous pain in the ***.

Effeckted
07-22-2006, 06:53 AM
I FOUND THE SECRET FORUMS!!!! moving on to the more pressing matters, my idea proposed on the offical sb boards but you seem to be cmmenting a little bit more openly here. So tell me what you think.

"The problem with keycloning is a feature many people dont seem to be aware of. You can link entire networks of computers together to do it, it dosnt have to be done on just 1 machine. The fix for this problem would be for SBG to take an offical stance on it and IP ban the user and ban all the accounts involved. yes accounts are free and yes you can change your IP but leveling and gearing 10 toons will get awfuly old awfuly fast. NO warning should be given to the user either. AN offical statment should be made outling what the offical definition of keycloning is and that the bans will fly without warning if your caught.

I think that would sort the problem and scare some of the people away right off the bat. "

facerip
07-22-2006, 10:57 AM
Running multiple clients is something that has to stay really. It is far to late to invent something to try and radically change the system. There would be a a lot of ways around it as well. Banning players IP's is probably the last on their list since probably 90% of the player bases does it. Adapt and overcome IMO.

Effeckted
07-22-2006, 11:09 AM
Running multiple clients is something that has to stay really. It is far to late to invent something to try and radically change the system. There would be a a lot of ways around it as well. Banning players IP's is probably the last on their list since probably 90% of the player bases does it. Adapt and overcome IMO.

Im refering to key cloning as i believe the orginal poster was refering to. I tripple box everyday i run my main a buffbard and buffpriest. That does not hurt any1 besides the guildies i dont buff. Keycloning hurts the game as it takes the skill out of it when vamp assasin shadowbolt you for 350 each x 10 @ 1.5 a second a volley.